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THE Lowly Peon


mac tax 
21 October 2008, 8:57am

i'm tired of people complaining about how expensive macs are. i'm tired of them claiming that you have to pay some invisible "mac tax" to apple for no reason other than they want to "tax" you for buying it.a while back i posted an article that compared a mid-range mac pro with a comparable PC (here). at first, i, too, was flabbergasted. the idea was that the parts you get in a mac pro cost what they cost. putting them into a PC costs about the same (the price difference, at about $2,800, was under $6).and then i just read an article on on slashdot about some guy who did the same on the new macbook. his results were about the same.but what i don't understand is this. when you get a mac, you are getting a much higher quality product. how can you compare the insides and disregard the outside? the new macbooks are carved from ONE piece of aluminum. that's amazing! how can you compare the OS? windows is a piece of junk. and i know i'll get a lot of crap in the comments for outright saying it, but it's true. and if you don't think so, it's likely because you've never used anything else. i used to naively say that windows sucked, but that was before i used it much. i was just a mac fanboy. but now, i've been using windows (XP) professionally for over a year. and i can NOT understand how people think this is the standard. what i've decided is this. granted i'm in a bad mood, have been frustrated with windows, and i love my apple products. with apple, you pay more most of the time, but you always get a lot more. think about it. you can't put a price on certain things you get with a mac that people generally disregard when comparing prices.1. macs are prettier. if you look at a computer 8+ hours a day, it helps to make it attractive.2. macs are carefully thought out. there's consistency. on windows, sometimes right click does this, sometimes left click. sometimes you go into properties, sometimes options. be consistent! it seems like apple software/OS was all written by a bunch of guys working endlessly, together, in a big room. windows was written by a bunch of monkeys in hopes of churning out shakespear.3. macs are built well. i have had ZERO hardware issues with any of my apple products, except when i dropped my iPod, or when my iPhone went swimming. yet my windows machine is cracking and bending and makes weid noises.4. drivers. after working for IT support for over a year, i can't think of very much that i hate more than drivers.5. i'm digressing. and mainly just ranting about windows. which really should deserve another post (or two, or nine-hundred).the point is that some things you can compare, but others you can't. macs are higher quality, so they cost more. apple's cheapest product is way more than the cheapest windows machine out there, because the cheapest windows machine is more worthless than my toilet when it comes to operating, and the cheapest mac is mid range windows machine.

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holly

[21 October 2008]

i hope you weren't offended by my comment about 'how do people afford this?' because i certainly think that what you get is worth the money you pay.. but when you're broke and don't make much money and have student loans and a mortgage payment... it's hard to afford such expensive, nice pieces of equipment. they are nice, indeed.

i do have to comment on your #3 though. that's great that you have never had issues, but some have. to pretend like apple products are perfect is silly. my first ipod broke out of nowhere. for no reason. nothing worked, and yes i tried everything i was supposed to. it conveniently broke about a year and 2 months after i got it and therefore could not take advantage of my warranty. so within a year, i had to spend another $300.

most of the time that people defend PCs isn't because they hate macs or think that PCs are truly better.. it's that they don't like the holier-than-thou attitude of a lot of mac users. it's a defensive thing. and not everyone is a computer person.. they may only use it for small functions and they like what they're used to and don't really care about the same kinds of things.

i agree with you about everything, macs are very nice..they're pretty, have a lot of cool features, and the operating system is MUCH better than windows. but they aren't perfect. and yes, i'm still pissed that apple won't let me burn the movies i paid for onto a dvd in a way that i can play them in a dvd player. that was more of a rant that i anticipated. sorry.

 

Benji!

[22 October 2008]

I assume you mean movies you have bought through iTunes? Because that has nothing to do with Apple and has everything to do with the MPAA.

 

THE Lowly Peon

[22 October 2008]

and to the both of you, i give a hearty hear hear. i really want to buy movies on itunes because it's so darn* easy with my apple tv, but i can't handle the idea of spending the same price that i could on a DVD, except it's only usable on my ipod, iphone, iphone 3g, computer, and apple tv. what is that?!

 

holly

[23 October 2008]

wait, was that sarcastic..? i can't tell. if so, i mean i don't own an ipod, 2 iphones, a mac, and an apple tv. so for me, i'd much rather watch a movie on my tv than on an ipod screen. and if i want to do that i have to make yet another purchase to hook those up. the way i see it- if i can buy a song off of itunes and burn it on to a cd so that it is playable elsewhere besides itunes or ipods.. i feel i should be able to do the same with a movie i buy on itunes. i'm not sure how that stuff happens, but it should. if apple (itunes) can make it happen with music, why can't it happen with movies? i understand your point about the mpaa, benji. but just like with music and the riaa, when you pay the money for the song, you are purchasing the music and therefore can own (burn) it on a cd as well as have it on your computer digitally. when you pay for it you can do with it what you want..including burning it in physical form. it's totally legal. so how come we can pay for and own the movie digitally but not physically as well.. eventhough we have in fact purchased the movie?? whether this an apple issue or the mpaa issue, it's stupid either way.

 

THE Lowly Peon

[23 October 2008]

no, holly, no sarcasm. i really do want to buy movies on my apple tv. in china, it's impossible to find any movie, so if i could buy it (i'll pay what they ask), i would without question. i was listing those five things because apple's DRM only allows use of five "authorized" devices. which is silly. i know there's no way to say only one person can watch it on any of his devices, but five seems so arbitrary.

and i also agree about the burning thing. no sarcasm there either.

however, the riaa says that burning a cd (in fact, they go so far as to say copying it onto an iPod) is illegal. so they can rot in hell.

but i really want to buy kung fu panda when it comes out in november. and i really want to buy wall-e the week after!

 

Saulemander

[23 October 2008]

mac sucks...

 

Saulemander

[23 October 2008]

er...apple

 

holly

[23 October 2008]

that's what i thought at first.. but i wasn't sure. yes, 5 is totally arbitrary.

 

Benji!

[24 October 2008]

I think technically speaking when you buy a movie through iTunes you are buying the rights to have a digital copy on your computer. According to the layers you don't actually own it.

Basically, the MPAA and the RIAA both suck. And capitalism sucks.

 

Poppy

[24 October 2008]

I don't really have anything to add to this conversation. I'd just like to make sure that we've all seen this comic: http://xkcd.com/488/